As far as I’m concerned the brain-dead Witkoff Deal is dead now and Israel has zero obligations.
I’m so sick of Orange Paper Tiger saying they’ll be all hell to pay and it never is paid. All (hair) hat and no cattle. Unlike me (and others who’ve been screaming deportation for years) he’ll never make it happen. He is not our messiah either it turns out.
Shiri Bibas’s morbid body double was the final straw for me. The deal is off.
Are there 10 adults in Gaza/Sodom who are not pure evil? No, there are not.
I know what I would do. Whether we do it before or after we get the last Jew out dead or alive is the only thing I’d have to think about.
I have a lot of sympathy for your view but I think deradicalization is the answer not deportation. If they are just deported, they will spread their hatred and chaos wherever they go. They could turn Egypt and Jordan into enemy states with armies. Civil war on Israel's borders won't make Israeli Jews any safer when they act as launching pads for terror. We need to stop pretending that most Palestinians detest Hamas. They are in desperate need of reeducation and their genocidal culture belongs in the dustbin of history. I agree that Trump is no saviour.
I’d love it if ‘deradicalization’ were possible. But it’s not.
If it were, how do you explain Israeli Arab citizens rioting in every mixed city in Israel in 2021?
How do you explain that 95% of Israeli Arabs (Druze excepted) vote for Arab list parties whose Knesset members to a one are basically mouthpieces for PA and Hamas?
How do you explain that there is no shortage of terror activity (usually foiled, thank God) that is driven by citizen Arabs? Yes, it’s not on the scale of the territory Arabs, but it’s not non-existent for sure.
These are most cared-for Arabs in the world, with civil and democratic rights no other Arabs enjoy in any Arab country. With living standards, healthcare, education, and their own Israeli financial assets at stake like no other Arabs anywhere.
If they can’t really be ‘deradicalized’ after 70 years, what chance do we stand with territory Arabs being deradicalized?
Zero.
Oh, wait. There is one way.
It could be done by going completely 17th Century on the place. We’d have to embrace really being the Western colonists our haters accuse us of being.
We’re not built for this as Jews. The cries of ‘this is not who we are’ would be far shriller than with mass deportation, and they’d mostly be right. This would be disaster for us, but humour me as I lay it out in broad strokes.
We’d have to take over Gaza like the Chinese took over Tibet. We’d have to smash everything “Palestinian” in there up to and including a ban on keffiyehs. It would by necessity have to be a cultural genocide because their identity and culture is build on a violent ahistorical lie. So they’d need a new culture to replace it. Maybe we can give them a new identity that starts with something other than “P” which they can’t pronounce anyway.
We have to wipe out any expressions of Palestinianism. Total gun confiscation. No knives longer than one-inch. No flags. Nobody in. Nobody out, so as to prevent re-radicalization. No internet. No radio of TV except from the Deradicalization Department. Book burnings.
10-hour per day instruction by IDF tough guys and Otzma Yehudit staffers on why Palesitinianism is a murderous lie that leads to death. No Quarans. No mosques. Basically everything up to and possibly including forcibly converting them to Judaism. (Hey they’re already circumsized, the hard part is over!!)
We can see how laughably crazy this failure would be.
The best that could ever be achieved would be pacification, which is not the same as deradicalization. That’s inherent to one degree or another in the Muslim world.
But that’s what it would take to even achieve real passification. It would cost a fortune. Along the way, lots of Jews in there trying to effect this fakakte savage-taming process would be killed by any and all remaining methods they have including bare hands. They are not above strangling Bibas babies with their bare hands, they will definitely find a way to kill their Jewish overlords trying to civilize them.
All this and more is why just removing all non-citizen Arabs from the territories so much simpler and effective.
It’s the only way.
But Israel doesn’t have to go back to the 17th century and act as another nation to do this, we just have to back to the 1990s and act like ourselves.
If we can bring millions of Jews out of hostile territory we don’t control (Ethiopia) we can certainly bring OUT millions from territory we do control and drop them, with or without permission, into other places who have no real defense against us doing so.
Let the world and all their NGOs and governments who profess to care so much about Palestinians, pick them up from there. We’ll send them the Google maps co-ordinates.
It would have to happen in a lighting-fast operation of shock-and-awe lest evil nations mount all manner of thwarting measures. Like, say, Belgium scrambling it’s one fighter aircraft to stop this ‘injustice’ and ‘affront to inherent Palestinian dignity’.
Lately, I read an opinion that we should drop them in Libya. They don’t have much national cohesion there and no serious air defense, a LOTS of desert. It would give us Egypt as a buffer state in between for added safety. Could be smart.
Frankly, I don’t care if we choose Antarctica.
Yes, we’d give them some winter coats and recipes to make Halal penguin.
I had mixed feelings about it. I believe that her excuse, that she had no idea what she was tearing down, is exceedingly unlikely. But I am not interested in a personal fight with her.
The world is fucked.
The West has collapsed.
As far as I’m concerned the brain-dead Witkoff Deal is dead now and Israel has zero obligations.
I’m so sick of Orange Paper Tiger saying they’ll be all hell to pay and it never is paid. All (hair) hat and no cattle. Unlike me (and others who’ve been screaming deportation for years) he’ll never make it happen. He is not our messiah either it turns out.
Shiri Bibas’s morbid body double was the final straw for me. The deal is off.
Are there 10 adults in Gaza/Sodom who are not pure evil? No, there are not.
I know what I would do. Whether we do it before or after we get the last Jew out dead or alive is the only thing I’d have to think about.
I have a lot of sympathy for your view but I think deradicalization is the answer not deportation. If they are just deported, they will spread their hatred and chaos wherever they go. They could turn Egypt and Jordan into enemy states with armies. Civil war on Israel's borders won't make Israeli Jews any safer when they act as launching pads for terror. We need to stop pretending that most Palestinians detest Hamas. They are in desperate need of reeducation and their genocidal culture belongs in the dustbin of history. I agree that Trump is no saviour.
Cynthia, your impulse is genuinely humane.
I’d love it if ‘deradicalization’ were possible. But it’s not.
If it were, how do you explain Israeli Arab citizens rioting in every mixed city in Israel in 2021?
How do you explain that 95% of Israeli Arabs (Druze excepted) vote for Arab list parties whose Knesset members to a one are basically mouthpieces for PA and Hamas?
How do you explain that there is no shortage of terror activity (usually foiled, thank God) that is driven by citizen Arabs? Yes, it’s not on the scale of the territory Arabs, but it’s not non-existent for sure.
These are most cared-for Arabs in the world, with civil and democratic rights no other Arabs enjoy in any Arab country. With living standards, healthcare, education, and their own Israeli financial assets at stake like no other Arabs anywhere.
If they can’t really be ‘deradicalized’ after 70 years, what chance do we stand with territory Arabs being deradicalized?
Zero.
Oh, wait. There is one way.
It could be done by going completely 17th Century on the place. We’d have to embrace really being the Western colonists our haters accuse us of being.
We’re not built for this as Jews. The cries of ‘this is not who we are’ would be far shriller than with mass deportation, and they’d mostly be right. This would be disaster for us, but humour me as I lay it out in broad strokes.
We’d have to take over Gaza like the Chinese took over Tibet. We’d have to smash everything “Palestinian” in there up to and including a ban on keffiyehs. It would by necessity have to be a cultural genocide because their identity and culture is build on a violent ahistorical lie. So they’d need a new culture to replace it. Maybe we can give them a new identity that starts with something other than “P” which they can’t pronounce anyway.
We have to wipe out any expressions of Palestinianism. Total gun confiscation. No knives longer than one-inch. No flags. Nobody in. Nobody out, so as to prevent re-radicalization. No internet. No radio of TV except from the Deradicalization Department. Book burnings.
10-hour per day instruction by IDF tough guys and Otzma Yehudit staffers on why Palesitinianism is a murderous lie that leads to death. No Quarans. No mosques. Basically everything up to and possibly including forcibly converting them to Judaism. (Hey they’re already circumsized, the hard part is over!!)
We can see how laughably crazy this failure would be.
The best that could ever be achieved would be pacification, which is not the same as deradicalization. That’s inherent to one degree or another in the Muslim world.
But that’s what it would take to even achieve real passification. It would cost a fortune. Along the way, lots of Jews in there trying to effect this fakakte savage-taming process would be killed by any and all remaining methods they have including bare hands. They are not above strangling Bibas babies with their bare hands, they will definitely find a way to kill their Jewish overlords trying to civilize them.
All this and more is why just removing all non-citizen Arabs from the territories so much simpler and effective.
It’s the only way.
But Israel doesn’t have to go back to the 17th century and act as another nation to do this, we just have to back to the 1990s and act like ourselves.
If we can bring millions of Jews out of hostile territory we don’t control (Ethiopia) we can certainly bring OUT millions from territory we do control and drop them, with or without permission, into other places who have no real defense against us doing so.
Let the world and all their NGOs and governments who profess to care so much about Palestinians, pick them up from there. We’ll send them the Google maps co-ordinates.
It would have to happen in a lighting-fast operation of shock-and-awe lest evil nations mount all manner of thwarting measures. Like, say, Belgium scrambling it’s one fighter aircraft to stop this ‘injustice’ and ‘affront to inherent Palestinian dignity’.
Lately, I read an opinion that we should drop them in Libya. They don’t have much national cohesion there and no serious air defense, a LOTS of desert. It would give us Egypt as a buffer state in between for added safety. Could be smart.
Frankly, I don’t care if we choose Antarctica.
Yes, we’d give them some winter coats and recipes to make Halal penguin.
We’re Jews after all. Not barbarians.
I had mixed feelings about it. I believe that her excuse, that she had no idea what she was tearing down, is exceedingly unlikely. But I am not interested in a personal fight with her.
I wonder why did you protect the face of your neigjbour? We should expose morally bankrupt soleless haters who condone deliberate murder of babies.